Essex County, New York
PO Box 338, Main Street · Bloomingdale, NY 12913 · 518-891-3189 · Fax: 518-891-6092

Town of St Armands Board Meetings

Tuesday, February 23, 2021 6:00 PM
Special Board Meeting and Public Hearing

These Meeting Minutes were approved by the St. Armand Town Board on March 9, 2021.

A Special Board Meeting and Public Hearing of the Town of St. Armand was held on the above date and time via a webinar conducted from the Town Hall, Bloomingdale, NY. The webinar Special Board Meeting and Public Hearing was advertised and made available to the public


Town Supervisor Davina Winemiller, Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates, Councilperson Donald Amell, Councilperson Jennifer Fuller and Councilperson Karl Law.
A quorum of the Board was in attendance.


Code Enforcement Officer Derrick Martineau, Wastewater Superintendent Stanley Ingison, and Town Clerk Barbara Darrah.


Matt Norfolk and Craig Michaels, Town Attorneys for the Code Enforcement action.


Aaron Cerbone, of the Adirondack Daily Enterprise, and Justyna Babcock, Keith Bordeau, Josh Colby, Monroe Gladd, Seth Jones, Shannon Madden, Adam Mayville, Warrene McCarthy, Mary Sullivan Orozi, Alicia Perry, Ashley St. Dennis, Lee Ann VanCour, Heather Wood, all from the community and 9 unidentified callers.

Public Notice was published in the Adirondack Daily Enterprise regarding the date and time of the Special Board Meeting and the Public Hearing, as well as being posted on the Town of St. Armand's outside marquis, the Town's Facebook page and the Bloomingdale Neighborhood Facebook Group page.

Supervisor Winemiller: Supervisor Winemiller called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and asked everyone to join in the Pledge of Allegiance.


Winemiller: The first part of this evening's meeting we are going to be talking about parking issues at Moody Pond. At the last Board Meeting, we were discussing parking tickets on Moody Pond. Winemiller referred to a picture on the screen, describing. From this line to the trailhead, the property is owned by the Town of St. Armand. Per the last board meeting, I reached out to the Saranac Lake Village Police and I asked them if they could issue parking tickets in this area and the deputy I spoke to took out the village map and this property is not located in the Village of Saranac Lake, so they could not assist us if they wanted. I reached out to the State Police; I actually have three calls into the State Police. They have not responded to my requests so far, and I think that is kind of telling how busy they are and how willing they would be to help us out here. I reached out to the Essex County Sheriff and spoke with Sheriff David Reynolds. I explained our problem up here and what was going on. I asked him if he could send someone to issues parking tickets on Moody Pond. He explained there are approximately 3 Essex County Sheriff's Deputies on duty to cover 18 towns. He said while they would be able to respond in an emergency or if we had a specific day that we wanted them to come and do something for a couple of hours they could try to help us out, but generally speaking, they absolutely will not come up here to police this for us on a daily basis in the summer. So, I did follow through with what the Board wanted and get more information.

I am going to pull up the photographs (referring to the screen) that were emailed to us last year showing the problems, and this is why we are talking about this tonight. Based on all the information I have, I think it is pretty obvious from that this is the Town of St. Armand's local law, it is our parking law, and we are going to have to be the ones to issue the parking tickets; either the Town Board members, the Town Supervisor, or an appointee of ours to do that. For those of you who are not in the know, we have two gentlemen who are both retired Corrections Officers, they live in the area and they are willing to volunteer to issue parking tickets. Based on comments from the Town Board members, I contacted our insurance company to verify that they would be covered if they were volunteers and yes, they would. I contacted Dan Manning, Essex County Attorney and asked him if it were a conflict of interest with having these two gentlemen issue parking tickets because they lived in the proximity to the area. He said no, if that were the case, then no one could live in a town and issue parking tickets. Essex County carries our Workers Compensation claims for all the towns in Essex County. I contacted them and if we had a volunteer who was hurt on the job doing something as a volunteer, they would be covered under our Workers Compensation. That's what I have got for you. I still think having these two gentlemen is the best possible option. They are both trained in hostile work environments, they are trained in de-escalation techniques, they are close and they are willing to volunteer. I think they would work out well. I am going to call on each Board member, based on all the information I have given you, how do you feel about this?

Winemiller: Joe Bates? Joe Bates. I am okay with it based on the research that you did. We can certainly change things if it gets too personal.

Winemiller: Thanks Joe. Don Amell? Don Amell: I have done a little investigation, too, on what other places have done. It looks like the most common way is they have created a parking enforcement officer. It is basically what you want done here. I think we should consider formalizing the position that way and opening it up like we do for other positions like that. If these two gentlemen are interested and they would like to apply for it, by all means.

Winemiller: So, you want to make it a paid position? Amell: Not necessarily paid. Just a formal position.

Winemiller: Ok. Formalize the position. Amell: Yes. It looks like generally, that is what they call it, Parking Enforcement Officer. In some places they have the requirements of a civil services exam. I don't know of that is necessary. Some do pay, of course, if it's a city. It sounds along like what you said of liability, etc. it might make sense to make it a formal position or positions. Just to keep it above board. In the past we have gotten ourselves into an issue when we say, okay, we are going to let Harry do this job and someone else says, Hey, I might have liked to do that. Just, again, transparency.

Winemiller: So post the position, do a formalized job description and then via Resolution, agree to appoint. Amell: Yes, the same process, like we do with all our other things like this, like we always do.

Winemiller: Jen Fuller? Jen Fuller: I agree with both Don and Joe. I am okay with it. I think Don is right. Perhaps down the road those gentlemen will decide they don't want to do this anymore and then at least we will have that job description to fall back on and handle it like we do with the other positions. I don't think that is a bad idea at all.

Winemiller: Karl Law? Karl Law: Yes. I am agreeing with the rest of the Board on this. I am fine with the volunteers; I think it is great that they are volunteering. I think my only concerns were what you answered already. Liability reasons of course, and what Jen brought up; conflict of interest. It sounds like you looked into those. Also, along with Don, I think a job description would be ideal for this situation just so that they know what we expect as a volunteer when we do appoint them to this position. I think also, Davina, should we have them sign something saying that in the event we had, God forbid, something happens, it wouldn't fall back on the town.

Winemiller: There is a waiver that we have for the ice rink. We have a waiver that the parents have to sign prior to allowing the kids to skate, that they won't frivolously sue the town. We could certainly do that. Law: I don't think I am too concerned on that, as far as suing the Town. I just want to make sure it is very clear on what is expected and that we are covered in every aspect.

Winemiller: Sure. One of the things we would provide to anyone doing this parking enforcement is an orange vest. That immediately signals to any passerby, that I am doing something in an official capacity. We would give them a vest, we would give them a copy of the local law outlining exactly what the law is, and how the tickets are written for and the amount of infraction. I would also provide them with a traffic ticket warning. It is a small slip of paper and says the Town of St. Armand. I would give them a warning (referring to the photos on the screen) if they were trying to park off the road, I would give them a warning. When there are vehicles blocking the lane of traffic, they would get a ticket.

We still get a few that are clearly parked in a “No Parking” zone, they get a ticket. I would give training to anyone issuing the parking tickets. It is not a difficult task. It is not a time-consuming position, but it is more of a non-stop thing because people leave and more people pull up. I will make sure that is part of formalizing the position, set up a checklist to make sure everyone doing the position is on the same page; they all know what the job entails, they understand what the parking law is. We will also provide them with copies of the ticket books, the warning notices, and the vest. Is there anyone else that would like to comment on the Moody Pond parking issue? Justyna Babcock: I just wanted to let you know that I am very happy with the work you are doing; how diligent you are with everything that we have to deal with, and I am just really happy with what you do and all your hard work. Now I hear that you are going there to give out tickets, and you have also been working sometimes on Saturday at the Transfer station? Hats off to Davina; I think you can handle anything that comes your way. Thank you so much. Warrene McCarthy: I would like to second that.

Winemiller: Thank you both. I appreciate that. Our Public Hearing begins at 6:30 pm. Does anyone else have any other concerns? Warrene McCarthy: I would like to thank Dougie (Snickles) and his crew for all their hard work. They are just doing a great job.

Winemiller: They really are. This has just been a horrible winter; it has just been snowing as far as snowfall amounts. It just keeps snowing and snowing and snowing. I just spoke with Doug today, and they spent today thawing out culverts, due to the forecast for rain and warming temperatures. It is a messy, wet, cold, dirty and clammy job. I am grateful for the excellent highway team we have in St. Armand.

Winemiller: I do have one more thing. I would like to talk about the Veterans Memorial. I think most of you are familiar with Veterans Memorial Park located between the Four Corners Diner and the Methodist Church. Last year, The Board allowed me to create a Veterans Memorial task force. I do need a few more people on the Veterans Memorial task force. I am going to ask anyone in the audience if they would like to consider being on the task force? Justyna Babcock: Count me in.

Winemiller: Justyna, thank you. Warrene McCarthy: I will do anything I can physically do.

Winemiller: Thank you, both. Okay. Justyna and Warrene, I will be contacting you for more information tomorrow. Winemiller then showed photos of the Town of Keene's Veterans Memorial. She described the memorial and stated the brass plaques placed on the stones are very similar to what the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and National Guard use for their plaques placed on graves.


Supervisor Winemiller opened the Public Hearing at 6:30 pm and asked Town Clerk Barbara Darrah to read the Public Hearing Notice:

Notice of Public Hearing Town of St. Armand

The Town of St. Armand Town Board will conduct a virtual Special Board Meeting on Tuesday, February 23, 2021, beginning at 6:00 pm for discussion regarding parking at Moody Pond. A Public Hearing will also be held on February 23, 2021 beginning at 6:30 pm. The topic of the Public Hearing is regarding the determination of Unsafe Structures located at 10 School Street, Bloomingdale, NY. The Special Board Meeting will immediately follow the Public Hearing.

Due to COVID-19, the Public Hearing and Special Board meeting will be held virtually, and all members of the community are welcome to attend:

Special Board Meeting and Public Hearing Tuesday, February 23, 2021 beginning at 6:00 pm – 9:30 pm. Please join my meeting from your computer, table or smartphone. 777516205. You can also dial in using your phone. 1-646-749-3112. Access Code: 777-516-205. For questions, please contact the Town of St. Armand at 518-891-3189. Written questions or comments are welcomed and may be submitted until February 22, 2021 at 11:00 am. Please send to: Town of St. Armand, PO Box 338, Bloomingdale, NY 12913 or email: This public notice was published in the Adirondack Daily Enterprise on February 16, 2021.

Winemiller: Thank you, Barb. I am going to take care of a little bit of housekeeping at this time so everyone knows the format for this Public Hearing. Everyone who wishes to make a statement, will be given the opportunity to be heard. Please limit your statement to 3 minutes. If you wish to speak during the Public Hearing, please add your name to the chat list. (Winemiller gave instructions how to add names). If you are a caller, I will give the callers an opportunity to make a statement during the Public Hearing. Please don't type anything other than your name into the chat. We will not be answering questions on the chat. When it is your turn to speak, you must state your first and last name for the record. If you refuse to give your first and last name, you will not be allowed to comment. Anonymous comments are not allowed. Please be considerate and polite when speaking. Everyone is given the right to speak. Mr. Martineau will have the opportunity to address any questions or clarify any facts raised during the public comment period. Mr. Gladd will also have the right to speak and to address any questions, clarify any details or make any other statements on the record. Mr. Gladd will also be given the opportunity to be heard and he can call upon witnesses to testify on his behalf.

So, Town Board members, Mr. Martineau and Mr. Gladd: Please wait until the end of the Public comment session to address any questions from the public. We are going to let the public speak and then you will have a chance to respond. This is an official proceeding of the Town Board of the Town of St. Armand. This is not a court proceeding. We will not be requiring that each speaker take an oath to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We do request and expect that any statements made by any person here tonight be truthful and based on facts.

The Town Board will not be passing any Resolution this evening. If the Board decides to pass a Resolution regarding the property, the Resolution will be passed during the Regular Board Meeting on March 9, 2021, at 6:30 p m.

For some background of why we are holding this Public Hearing: On April 14th, 2020, the St. Armand Town Board passed Resolution # 33 of 2020, thus enacting Local Law No. 2 of 2020, a Local Law Providing for the Repairs or Removal of Unsafe Buildings and Collapsed Structures in the Town of St. Armand. We are here this evening to discuss the property owned and occupied by Monroe Gladd, 10 School Street, Bloomingdale, NY. Since mid-July 2015, the Town's Code Enforcement Officers have ben diligently working to get Mr. Gladd to repair his property so that it meets the requirements of the New York State Building Code, the Residential Code of NYS, and the NYS Building and Fire Prevention Code as well as local laws in the Town of St. Armand including property maintenance, ordinances and the Unsafe Buildings law. Based on the report of the Code Enforcement Officer, which was prepared for the Board, it appears that Mr. Gladd has not complied with such orders that have been issued to him. At this time, I would like to turn the floor over to our Code Enforcement Officer, Derrick Martineau.

Derrick Martineau: Good Evening. I am the Code Enforcement Officer for the Town of St. Armand. Just a little background: For anyone who may not have seen the report, on the screen is the report I supplied to the Town Board and Mr. Gladd also has a copy of this report. As the Board is aware, Mr. Gladd's residence located at 10 School street, Bloomingdale, County of Essex, State of New York, 12913, has been the subject of grave concern since at least 2015, predating my employment as Town Code Enforcement Officer. In fact, a lot of the problems with the premises go back to around 2004, from what I have dug up. Previous Code Enforcement Officers Robert Hammond and Joseph Amell conducted regular inspections and found multiple violations of the NYS Building Code and NYS Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code Act and the Town of St. Armand local laws. There are several violations that go from safe and sanitary conditions on the exterior, accessory structures that are not maintained, vehicles that are not registered or properly licensed. The mobile home itself, which is the primary dwelling, has had additions that were put on the building without building permits and were not properly put on the building. With mobile homes you are not supposed to attach additions directly to the mobile home like you would on a conventionally- framed building. They may not be structurally well there. There was never a certificate of occupancy issued for any of the work done there, no plans by engineers, either. There were never any permits issued or applied for, for any of the work that was done on the property. Up to date, I, myself have done inspections approximately 11 times. My inspections were done from driveways, front and back of the residence, and from the road due to the fact I was not given the opportunity to come onto the property or into the residence to do proper inspections. I had sent four letters to Mr. Gladd asking to get permission to get come in and do inspections and never received responses on those. I tried to contact him on the phone eight times, starting around May 2020, until January 20, 2021. I was able to speak with him at one point in August. I thought what we had was a good discussion. Mr. Gladd had said he was going to comply with the orders that were set forth by the courts previous to my employment, and that he was going to get all the work done. That was the last I spoke with him. Nothing had been done to that point, I still hadn't received any permit applications, no indication from him, on being allowed to do proper inspections. From my inspections, the roof on the mobile home itself is very deteriorated. It is kind of falling in on itself in most places. This was a roof that was added on to the structure after it was placed there; it is not the original roof for the mobile home. As I had mentioned, the additions that were put on to the rear of the building (referring to the picture on the screen). There were no plans or permit for this addition and it is attached directly to the mobile home. Most mobile homes are built with minimal integrity to begin with and then if you attach another building to that, it just can't support all the extra weight. Then, there is a stovepipe of some sort that comes up through the roof that isn't done properly and could be #1) a fire hazard and #2) it is another point for something to leak and make more issues inside. The porch on the front of the mobile home was collapsing. Since then, Mr. Gladd has removed that. Again, the removal of that was done without any permitting. Now, I am not sure what kind of structural integrity is left there. I don't know exactly what was removed and what wasn't so that adds to the safety issues. As I mentioned, you can see multiple vehicles throughout the property, construction debris, household debris. There is a swimming pool that is not maintained, so that can be a health and safety issue. There is no fence around it and it is starting to collapse a little bit. At this point, this is an emergency case to me. I was there on October 2, 2020, and I was speaking to a woman that I believe to be a friend or significant other of Mr. Gladd. We were speaking outside the porch and she had told me she had been telling Mr. Gladd that he needed to clean things up, and he just hadn't done it. As we were speaking, another gentleman opened the door and asked who I was, and she introduced me to him. And then, a school bus pulled up and dropped off a young girl, in my opinion about 6 or 7 years of age. It really made me fear because of the condition that that property is in. I fear for everyone's life who is there, but especially for this little girl who doesn't have a choice in the matter. So that is why I feel this is an emergency case and we really need to move forward with something on this to keep everybody safe. The property is one issue, but everybody's health and safety is my main concern at this point. I will now turn this back to Ms. Winemiller now.

Winemiller: Thank you Derrick. Right now, I am going to call on each of the Board members and see if they have any questions for Derrick. Joe Bates? Bates: No ma'am.

Winemiller: Don Amell? Amell: I have no questions.

Winemiller: Jen Fuller? Fuller: No questions. Thank you, Derrick.

Winemiller: Karl Law? Law: No questions at this time. Derrick, you have done a very thorough job, and I thank you.

Winemiller: At this point I would like to give Monroe Gladd an opportunity to speak. I am not sure if Mr. Gladd is with us. Mr. Gladd are you in the meeting?

There was no response.

Winemiller: Is there anyone here that would like to speak on behalf of Mr. Gladd?

There was no response.

Winemiller: At this point, does anyone at the meeting have a statement or a question they would like to ask? Warrene McCarthy: I am just wondering: It seems like the Town Board has been talking about this for a while. And then it gets postponed to the next month, to the next month, to the next month. This has been going on for twenty years. I can remember when Mary Orozi owned her home which is adjacent to this property and it was going on way back then. Mary was forced to move from her home and now her daughter owns it. They have been waiting for resolution on this for years. I am just wondering how much longer it will take to get this place condemned, whatever it is they are going to do? Derrick has stated this is an emergency situation. I just wonder how long this will take. Winmiller: Warrene, I think you are probably talking about the other court case in North Elba for some time. It has been back and forth in the courts since 2016. Because of COVID, it has kind of put the brakes on the court case and that is why we are going with the local law right now. I would like to introduce our town attorneys, Matt Norfolk and Craig Michaels.

Craig Michaels: First let me say to the extent we are going to discuss any legal matters, that should probably be done in an Executive Session in order to maintain attorney/client privilege. But, from our standpoint the town is proceeding according to its own laws and according to the laws of the state. But we intend to see this through and resolve this situation in the way that the Town Board feels is appropriate. Yes, there is this process and there is also a criminal matter, which we will hopefully have a hearing on in April. And as Davina said, it has basically been postponed because of COVID and it is something that will likely have to take place in person, so we are waiting for the restrictions to lift on that. Winemiller: So, the word, I guess Warrene, is we have to follow the law. And, it depends on if the Town Board decides this is an emergency situation, and to act on our own local law. Then we have to follow the local law and we have to give notice and filings and things like that. If the Town Board decides to move forward on this, I think we are looking at a matter of months before the condemnation would be complete. Is that accurate, Craig?

Craig Michaels: Hmmm, I mean that would be our hope. It doesn't seem to me from what I know that the Town Board is looking to delay resolving this matter any further. It is hard to guarantee a date at this point, so we are certainly going to move it forward as quickly we can.

Winemiller: Any other questions for Derrick or Craig? Mary (Orozi), I don't know if you are still with us, Mary, but you probably have had the best view of this property for twenty years. If you would like to make a statement, I invite you to do so.

Mary Orozi: It's a little more than twenty years. And, if I got going right now I probably wouldn't stop for another hour and a half so it's probably not a good idea. I know I have tried for years since he moved in there and I went to many Town Board meetings and nothing was ever resolved. Right now, he is using the driveway to that house. I am just really angry, so I just don't have any more to say. I just wanted to listen in to see if maybe after twenty years, the neighborhood could get resolve. Because it isn't just me. It is the Dora's who have to drive out and look at that every day. It's all of us that have lived on that street. I was in that house for 37 years and I had to get out because I was afraid to stay there. I would just like to see it resolved for those who still live there and for my daughter who now owns that house next door. That's it.

Winemiller: Mary, thank you so much. I appreciate your comments and I appreciate your patience this evening with us. Anyone else at this time? The floor is open if you wish to make a statement or ask a question, now is the time. Guest: Can you hear me?

Winemiller: Sure. Can you please identify yourself? Unclear response. Guest: Did you hear me?

Winemiller: I'm sorry, say it again, please? Ann Lapierre.

Winemiller: Ann Lapierre. I'm sorry. Thank you, Anne. Go ahead, Lapierre: There are some questions I have that I know that aren't true. And some of them have to do with that Code Enforcer.

Winemiller: With the Code Enforcement Officer? Lapierre: Oh, yes. With him. First of all, I heard him state a lie. He came right out and stated a lie. Second of all…

Winemiller: Ok, can you…… Lapierre: NO, wait a minute. We have been trying to get a permit for this place I don't know how many times. We have been refused or they do not answer our calls. Or, do not recontact us. I don't know how many times. I have tried twice. With no contact.

Winemiller: Have you submitted a building application, Ann? Is that what you are stating? Lapierre: Oh, there is a building application and it has already been approved to tear down the back. He wants to come look at it and then he is going to give us a permit that we have already paid for.

Winemiller: Ok. Just because you paid for a permit doesn't mean the permit has been approved. Ann, I am sorry. I am having a little bit of trouble hearing you. I do apologize. Do you live in the house at 10 School Street? Lapierre: Oh, yes. And, I offered….um, who am I talking to right now?

Winemiller: This is Davina Winemiller. Lapierre: I offered you to come into my house and what did you say to me? “No, I don't need to.” That is what you said to me.

Winemiller: That is correct, uh-huh. Lapierre: Why not? You could have seen for yourself that the house if fine.

Winemiller: Ma'am, please don't take this the wrong way, but I am not the Code Enforcement Officer, I am not a contractor, I am not an architect, I am not an engineer, and I have no knowledge of building trades. So, when I said that I don't need to come in, it is because no matter what I saw was not going to help you or hurt you because I have no background in buildings. The only person who can determine that is our Code Enforcement Officer.

Lapierre: And, he is also still insisting that the back is attached to the trailer. It's not and never has been. There are cement pillars out there supporting it. We poured them.

Winemiller: Cement pillars are supporting it? Lapierre: That is what the Code Enforcer Rick Heath told us to put it on cement pillars. We had a permit for all that.

Winemiller: What year was that permit issued, do you know? Lapierre: I can't even remember. It was when Rick Heath was the Code Enforcer. Winemiller: Officer Rick Heath? Okay. Ann, can you tell me what year the trailer was installed there? Lapierre: I have no idea. We bought it from Michele Mills.

Winemiller: So, the trailer was installed there when you purchased the property?

Lapierre: Yes. It was already here.

Winemiller: Do you know what year the property was purchased? Lapierre: Fourteen years ago.

Winemiller: But you don't know what year the trailer is? Lapierre: I have no idea. There is nothing wrong with the trailer. We haven't had any problems with the trailer itself. Monroe wants to talk to you.

Monroe Gladd: Okay. I called but you couldn't hear me. I was muted or something. My phone said I wasn't muted.

OK. Anyways, I applied for a permit. We got an email today with my lawyer from Code Enforcement. He needs to come over to look at the back addition and where I want to put the 6x6 pressure treated on the original front porch which I got no problem with. And he wants to come in and inspect the trailer. I have no problem with that. I never received any letters from him until recently before snow came. It said either resolve or the place is going to be condemned. We took the front roof right off. The original trailer roof is still there on both sides. I want to take the whole back addition off; put it right back to just the trailer. There is nothing attached to the trailer. Rick Heath had me and two others, because we had nailed to the edge of the trailer, we had to take a saws-all and cut if all off. We did that and Rick approved that. Then it went on, we had the floor all done. Rick would not respond to any of the phone calls, my neighbor whose uncle was the head Code Enforcement Officer, we called him, and he said to give him three more days and if he doesn't show up to do the walls, to go ahead and put up the walls. Well, Rick Heath showed up and I won't tell you the exact words he used, but he said, “Never f'in call Code Enforcement on me again. I am the Code Enforcement Officer. He renewed the permit that day. Nobody can find it. I went to talk to Rick, and he said he stored everything upstairs in the Town Hall when he resigned. Nobody has been able to find that. With the other Code Enforcement Officer that took over, I got a permit form him to put over from the back addition over the whole roof and that is what we did and I still have that permit.

Winemiller: Do you know what year that was, Monroe?

Gladd: The permit? I can find out, it's right in my truck. And another thing while we are talking. All my vehicles are registered, insured and running except for one. I got one on 10 School Street and had one on 8, but it is registered. I have copies, I can bring in tomorrow. But, if Derrick wants to come in and look and see what I want to do, I'll be available after Monday. I just came inside from getting the permit out of my truck. That building permit was issued 10-20-2011.

Winemiller: Okay. So, in 2011, you are saying Rick Heath issued a building ……

Gladd: No, not Rick Heath. I got this permit was issued by Robert Hammond. It was for the roof to go from the back addition over the whole roof.

Winemiller: Monroe, I know you can't see the picture on the screen, but I am showing the picture of the roof that was taken on August 17, 2020. Monroe, I am not a contractor, but this is a scary picture.

Gladd: I know. I understand. I do have a permit in with Derrick. If he wants to come over and look at it and look inside the trailer, which I have no problem. I will be available anytime Monday right through the week, anytime he wants to come.

Winemiller: I am going to hold you at your word right now, Monroe. What I am going to say to you and to Derrick is our next Board meeting is on Tuesday, March 9, 2021. And, I would like to set up a time right here and right now for Derrick Martineau and myself to come over and meet with you, Monroe. I want Derrick to inspect everything so that he can see exactly what is going on there and if he feels it's safe. I would like to set up a date and time with you right now.

Gladd: That is no problem. Anytime from March 1st on, I am available.

Winemiller: Derrick Martineau. Martineau: I am good any day that the both of you are.

Winemiller: Monday, March 1st. What time do you have available in the afternoon, Monroe?

Gladd: All afternoon.

Winemiller: Derrick, can we do 1:00 pm?

Gladd: 1:00 pm. If that works for you two, that works for me. Martineau. That would be great.

Winemiller: So, Monday, March 1st at 1:00 pm, Derrick and I are going to knock on your door, Monroe and we are going take pictures, we are going to talk, and we are going to see everything that is going on there. Okay?

Gladd: Sounds like a plan.

Winemiller: What is going to happen after that is on March 9th, Derrick is going to present his findings to the Town Board, with photographs and other written documents that he has. Monroe, I invite you to join us at that meeting on Tuesday, March 9th, at 6:30 pm. I will get you the link. On Tuesday, March 9th, Derrick will present to the Board, and the Board will make a determination at that time.

Gladd: When you come, do you want me to copy all my registrations and insurance cards? Martineau: Yes, please.

Winemiller: That would be great, and we can just take a pictures of them, we won't need photocopies of them.

Gladd: Okay. I will get you copies of every registration and insurance.

Winemiller: Okay. Monday, March 1st at 1:00 pm.

Gladd: Sounds good.

Winemiller: Does anyone have any statements or questions for Monroe? There were none. Martineau: Davina, does he have a copy of the inspection report?

Gladd: I have the original. Martineau: The one with the photos, so he can see what you are talking about.

Gladd: Yes, the one that you dropped off.


Winemiller: Does anyone have any questions or concerns for the Board? There were none.


Winemiller: Okay, we need to go into an Executive Session, so I would ask the guest audience to excuse themselves.

Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made the Motion to enter into Executive Session. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Jennifer Fuller. The Executive Session began at 7:13 pm. The purpose of the Executive Session was for discussion on pending litigation.


Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made the Motion to adjourn the Executive Session. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Donald Amell. The Executive Session adjourned at 7:40 pm


Councilperson Karl Law made a Motion to Adjourn the Regular Board Meeting. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Jennifer Fuller. The Regular Board Meeting adjourned at 7:40 pm.

I, Barbara J. Darrah, Town Clerk for the Town of St. Armand, do hereby certify that the above is a true and correct transcript of the Regular Board Meeting minutes held on the above-referenced date.

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