Essex County, New York
PO Box 338, Main Street · Bloomingdale, NY 12913 · 518-891-3189 · Fax: 518-891-6092

Town of St Armands Board Meetings
Regular Board Meeting - 6:30 pm
Wednesday, October 13, 2021

These Regular Board Meeting Minutes were approved by the Town Board on November 9, 2021.

A Regular Board Meeting of the Town of St. Armand was held on the above date and time in person and via webinar conducted from the Town Hall, Bloomingdale, NY. The Regular Board meeting was advertised and made available to the public.


Town Supervisor Davina Winemiller, Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates, Councilperson Donald Amell, Councilperson Jennifer Fuller, and Councilperson Karl Law.
A quorum of the Board was in attendance.


Highway Superintendent Douglas Snickles, Wastewater Superintendent Stanley Ingison, Cory Skiff, and Town Clerk Barbara Darrah.


Code Enforcement Officer Derrick Martineau.


Josh Colby, Sandy Hayes, Warrene McCarthy, Clyde Rabideau, and Sheridan Swinyer, all from the community.


Keith A. Braun, Cedar Ridge Holdings, Inc. – Request to tie into water line located at 1666 NYS Route 3.

Supervisor Davina Winemiller called the Regular Board Meeting to order at 6:30 pm and asked all to join in the Pledge of Allegiance. Supervisor Winemiller introduced guest speaker Keith Braun, Cedar Ridge Holdings, Inc.

Keith introduced himself, and asked if it was possible to display on the screen. Winemiller stated that was not possible at the moment. Keith stated he could discuss enough so he would make sense. Keith requested to tie into a water line located at 1666 NYS Route 3. The new supply line would supply a new house at 1664 NYS Route 3. The request was to make a connection to the already existing ¾” line to serve the house next door. The water main is on the opposite of Route 3, which would make a significant amount of work to access. The water pressure seems to be adequate to supply two houses. Winemiller asked if they intended to install a secondary shutoff so that each house could be shut off independently. Keith stated yes, there would be a shut off for 1666 and one for 1664. Winemiller stated that the Water department and Code Enforcement would need to be involved. Keith stated each house would have its own meter and there would be two separate accounts.

Winemiller asked if there were any questions? Barbara Darrah, Town Clerk, asked when the properties were purchased for the purpose of setting up water and sewer accounts? Keith stated he could not recall exactly and he would make a note to ask their attorney and get back to us. He stated he would have assumed that notice was sent to us as well.

Sandy Hayes asked if the property was going to remain in the same ownership? Keith stated for now, but there is a potential for subdivision going forward, and they could do an easement for the water line. Sandy stated it is not a question of an easement. If that becomes two different owners then if there is an issue, one could dispute fixing the issue. There should be a separate water and sewer connections.

Winemiller stated she went to the property that morning at about 11:30 and she found out later in the afternoon that the sewer line had already been installed last Thursday. Davina spoke with Stan Ingison about this and Stan reported he met with Clyde Rabideau on Thursday, September 23, 2021. Stan reported that he (Stan) must be present when the sewer line was to be installed. Ingison stated Cory Skiff had reported to Stan that there was a phone message at the Water plant stating they were installing the sewer line. Keith reported the phone call was made yesterday, October 12th. Winemiller stated that did not preclude that Keith and Clyde had been notified that Stan had to be present. Winemiller stated she was going to request that he contact Barbara Darrah to set up a time to contact Stan to meet with him at the site. Keith stated he would reach out to Barbara tomorrow (October 14th.) to schedule with Stan. Keith apologized that he did not disclose it and that he was not trying to withhold anything.

Winemiller asked Councilperson Donald Amell to weigh in. Councilperson Amell stated this matter needed further discussion. Doug Snickles asked if anyone took pictures of the project? Keith stated there are photos. Winemiller repeated that Keith and Clyde were notified and they were notified before yesterday when the installation actually occurred. The Board agreed there needed to be more discussion regarding the water line. Doug Snickles added that he did not see a Dig Safe ticket and there should have been one. Winemiller asked Keith if there was a Dig safe ticket done. Keith said he thought there was a Dig safe ticket done.

Winemiller asked Keith to set up a meeting with her. He stated he could do so on Friday and discuss these issues. Winemiller asked if anyone else had any questions. Sandy Hayes asked if there was a penalty for tapping into water lines or sewer lines? Winemiller stated she would require them to unbury it and show Stan that it was connected correctly. Winemiller also stated she would look at the Sewer Ordinance/Law.

Winemiller concluded by thanking Keith and repeating she hoped to meet with him on Friday.


Highway Superintendent Douglas Snickles presented the following written report to the Board:

Town of St. Armand Highway Report for the October 13, 2021 Town Board Meeting

1) We helped with paving the spot on Route 3 where the water line break took place.
2) We have been hanging Home Town Hero banners as they come in.
3) We completed the sidewalk framing and pouring at Matt Woodruff’s on St. Regis Ave.
4) We helped Essex County do more paving.
5) We helped the Town of Franklin with paving.
6) We mowed Franklin Falls Cemetery for the last time this season.
7) We built and installed the flower bed at the Veterans Park.
8) We are still patching when we can.
9) We had to install a new bearing on the sander on the 2015 International to get ready for winter.
10) We are cleaning up the yard and taking a load of scrap metal to Morrisonville.

There were no questions following the Highway Report.


Cory Skiff submitted the following written report to the Town Board:

Town of St. Armand Water Report for the October 13, 2021 Town Board Meeting

9/9/21 – Monthly sample to lab
Monthly report to health department
9/10/21 – Marked 24 River road for dig safe
Marked Route 3/Mill ST for dig safe
Spoke with James Abendroth about his curb stop
9/12/21-9/17/21 – Class B Water School in Cortland, NY
9/13/21 – Water Main Repair on Route 3 done by Ed Garrow and Sons
9/21/21 – Spoke with James Abendroth about his curb stop again
9/23/21 – Shut off water to Dawn Bolas residence so she could have a water leak repaired.
9/30/21 – Helped 27 River Road with a small water leak.


Derrick Martineau did not submit a report. Supervisor Winemiller gave a verbal update on the Monroe Gladd property. The case was adjourned until January 12, 2022. Winemiller reported that she had a meeting with Derrick on Friday and he submitted a new permit and fee schedule. Winemiller distributed the proposed fee schedule to the Board for their review.

Sandy Hayes stated the Town of Franklin and the Town of St. Armand share a Code Enforcement Officer. On September 20th he submitted a building permit for a new sewer system and a letter explaining the two variances approved by the Department of Health. Martineau’s office hours are on Fridays and there have been a few Fridays that have gone by and Sandy has not heard a word from him. This is a common theme Sandy has heard from his clients from both towns repeatedly. That was his personal complaint. In reviewing those restrictions again, Sandy stated in driving by the new projects in town (Jakobe’s and 1664 NYS Route 3), there should have been several permits displayed: a demolition permit, a renovation permit, and a roof permit for the hardware store, and foundation permit for the 1664 NYS Route 3 project, a permit to build a house on that foundation, and Water and Sewer permits. Sandy felt strongly that the rules needed to be tightened up in this town. He stated the Town Board needs to get on the Code Enforcement Officer to do his job.

Winemiller thanked Sandy Hayes for his input.


Wastewater Superintendent Stanley Ingison presented the following report to the Town Board:

Summary of last month’s activities for the October 13, 2021 Town Board Meeting

1) Did daily collections, testing and recorded data.
2) Did daily checks of all systems at the PTB and WWTP and recorded the data.
3) Wrote up the DEC monthly operating report and the discharge monitoring report and submitted them digitally.
4) Did weekly generator checks.
5) Did weekly greasing of the paddle wheel drive and clarifier drives.
6) Did weekly grit removal from the classifier drive outfall and unloaded it into the transfer station trash dumpster.
7) I did the weekly flexing of all the aeration diffusers.
8) After finishing getting the duckweed cleaned out of lagoon #2, the algae was around 80% gone. With the continuing changeover of liquid through the lagoon, the volume of algae left suspended in the water has been dwindling and is now nearing the zero level.
9) Steve Grimm from NY Rural Water came to do the sewer main video work from man hole # 1 through # 5 to check on how much sand and gravel was remaining in that section of the line. Man hole # 1 through # 3 mains are clear and in good condition but the 8” mains from man hole # 3 through # 5 continue to have enough gravel, stone, sand and debris in them so that the camera cannot travel through it which means it will get clogged up again if we don’t get it cleaned out. We will check with Saranac Lake DPW to see what they would do for us; at what cost so that we can get it into the budget for next year if we can’t get it done this year.
10) A few years ago (2017) St. Paul’s Church sold their rectory building after separating the water and sewer lines running through the Church building. I had met with the Father and their building and grounds manager about the sewer lateral hookup to our system. I knew that they had broken their agreement to have me on site for the installation and that they hadn’t installed it into the man hole as agreed on; but had installed it into the main line outside of the man hole instead. While doing the camera work we found that it was improperly installed without a saddle to seal it properly and it was intruding into the flow corridor inside the 8” line by close to 50%. We need to have them correct the problems.
11) After finding the above issue Davina made a new requirement notice for the Town’s water and wastewater lateral hookups to the main lines but this morning I was told that Clyde Rabideau had already installed a lateral to the main sewer line (I am assuming) on Saranac Avenue.
12) Tim Woodruff had complained to Davina while I was away about a smell on his property near the pre-treatment building. There was no smell at all when I arrived back on Tuesday morning. I have not been able to talk to Taylor yet to find out if he smelled any odors there over the long weekend. Sometimes in the past there has been a sewer like odor that comes from the wetland area of his and the town’s property. I have asked him to come over to smell the vents from the wastewater wet well vent and the building vent to see if it is coming from there or if it is coming from the wetland but he rarely does that and just assumes it is coming from there. The weather at this time of year is conducive to producing ammonia like smells from wetland areas so I do not know where the smell was coming from at this point and I have not smelled anything since Tuesday morning.
13) I have not talked to Kevin Cogan in a while and do not know what the situation is with the existing solar panel system is or where things lie with the construction of the new set of panels.
14) Taylor Munn, Wastewater back-up operator has let Davina know that he would like an increase in pay for doing the weekend and vacation / time off walk through checks and testing work for the wastewater treatment systems. Taylor will attend the October 20th budget work session.
15) I continue to work on the St. Armand Wastewater Department Comprehensive Improvement and Repair Program and I have now completed the ladder stand for access to the PTB heating system exterior unit.

Councilperson Amell asked if there was some sort of meter that measured odors, and if so we should get one.
Stan Ingison stated their might be. Winemiller stated she would look into that. She also stated she would contact Todd in Essex County and Tim Woodruff. The question is it coming from the wet well or coming from the wetland?

There were no other questions regarding the Wastewater Report.


Town Justice Frank Whitelaw submitted the following written report to the Town Board:

Town of St. Armand Town Court Report for the October 13, 2021 Regular Board Meeting

Total fines and surcharges collected for the month of September 2021: $3,766.00
Total collected year-to-date: $34,482.00
Total parking fines for September 2021: $1,100.00

There were no questions following the Town Justice Report.

RESOLUTIONS # 68 - # 69


Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates, who moved its adoption, offered the following Resolution:

WHEREAS, the New York State Comptroller requires a Resolution be done for increases in Revenue and Expenditure fund accounts, and

WHEREAS, the following Expenditure accounts were adjusted as stated below:

1. Increase Expenditures in Line Item FN3410.400 - $0.42 -North Elba Fire District Fund -due to rounding – with the Funds to come from petty cash/copy money.

2. Increase Expenditures in Line Item A8666.400- $11,330.00 – General Fund -due to funding request by HAPEC for a new a heating system for a St. Armand Resident with funds to come from Revenues received in 2019 from the sale of a home that a resident had a HAPEC/Town of St. Armand renovation 10-year reducing lien contract with.

3. Increase Expenditures in Line Item DA5110.400 - $7,309.82 – Highway Town wide Fund -for the purchase of two “Your Speed Is” flashing road signs. Increase in Revenue Line Item DA2770 $7,309.82 with funds that were gifted to the Town of St. Armand by Primax Properties/Dollar General. Primax donated the funds to help insure safety of pedestrians walking to the new Dollar General Store.

4. Increase Expenditures in Line Item A7310.411 - $9,000.00 – General Fund -due to unexpected electrical repairs on the Youth Field with Funds to come from Youth Savings and budgeted funds.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of St. Armand hereby approves by Resolution these increases and decreases from the Expenditure and Revenue Funds as designated above.

This Resolution was duly seconded by Councilperson Jennifer Fuller and adopted by Roll Call Vote as follows:

Supervisor Davina Winemiller AYE
Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates AYE
Councilperson Donald Amell AYE
Councilperson Jennifer Fuller AYE
Councilperson Karl Law AYE


Councilperson Karl Law, who moved it adoption, offered the following Resolution:

WHEREAS, the Essex County Community Resources Office in Elizabethtown, New York, working on behalf of the Town of St. Armand in obtaining a grant for the Town Hall ADA Upgrade and,

WHEREAS, a Request for Proposal to hire a design consultant for the Town Hall ADA Upgrade is required.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of St. Armand hereby authorizes a Request for Proposal for the Town Hall ADA Upgrade CDBG Project # 1103PF110-20 for a design consultant.

This Resolution was duly seconded by Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates and adopted by Roll Call Vote as follows:

Supervisor Davina Winemiller AYE
Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates AYE
Councilperson Donald Amell AYE
Councilperson Jennifer Fuller AYE
Councilperson Karl Law AYE

Barbara J. Darrah, St. Armand Town Clerk; Dated: October 13, 2021


The payment vouchers for October’s bills were presented for the Board’s approval as follows:

General Vouchers # 303 - # 335 in the amount of $ 12,445.67
Trust and Agency Vouchers # 52- # 55 in the amount of $ 1,426.15
Highway Vouchers # 130 - # 145 in the amount of $ 8,319.54
Water and Sewer Vouchers # 136 - # 151 in the amount of $ 6,507.51
B Fund Vouchers # 8 - # 9 in the amount of $ 81.02
Rockledge Voucher # 4 in the amount of $ 19.32
Highway Outside Vouchers - None

Councilperson Jennifer Fuller made the Motion to approve payment of this month’s bills; the Motion was seconded by Councilperson Karl Law A Roll Call Vote was as follows:

Supervisor Davina Winemiller AYE
Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates AYE
Councilperson Donald Amell AYE
Councilperson Jennifer Fuller AYE
Councilperson Karl Law AYE

All in favor. Motion carried.

Barbara J. Darrah, St. Armand Town Clerk; Dated: October 13, 2021


Supervisor Winemiller presented the Supervisor’s Monthly Report for September 2021. Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made the Motion to approve September’s Supervisor’s Report. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Jennifer Fuller. All in favor. Motion carried.


Councilperson Karl Law made the Motion to approve the Regular Board Meeting Minutes of September 14, 2021. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Jennifer Fuller.

Councilperson D. Joseph Bates made the Motion to approve the request for an extension for the Special Board Meeting Minutes of September 30th, and the Budget Work Session minutes of September 29th and October 6th, 2021. This request was due to Water and Sewer billing taking precedence. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Karl Law. All in favor. Motion carried.


Town Clerk Barbara Darrah gave the following report for the month of September 2021:

There were (3) Dog Licenses for September 2021. 2 FS, 1MN $ 21.00
There were (10) Certified Death Certificates, Henry Graves, Jr. $ 100.00
There was (1) Certified Marriage Transcript $ 10.00
Total Revenue Earned $ 131.00
Paid to Town Supervisor: General $ 18 B Fund $ 110.0; NYS Agriculture & Markets: $3.00


As of today, the current receivables are $ 96.66713. The 4th quarter billing cycle ended September 20th, 2021, and was in the amount of $71,128.89. Arrears are in the amount of $35,266.02. The bills were prepared on October 10, 2021 with a due date of November 10, 2021.


Basement lights for Town Hall Update - Winemiller reported the new basement lighting was installed and are working. Winemiller had purchased some lights from Coakley’s and John Schwartz submitted an estimate for $195.00 to install the lights.

St. Armand Veterans Memorial Park Work Day Update – Winemiller reported the Veterans Memorial Park Work Day held on Saturday, October 2, 2021 went great. The flower beds were planted and Doug will close up the border ends. The new sign will be put in at a later date.

Tree removal project update – The tree removal was completed by Avalon Tree Service for the tree on Town property on Prospect Street was completed and removed.

The remaining Budget Work Sessions are scheduled for October 20th at 6:30 pm and October 27th if needed. The Public Hearing for the 2022 Budget and Water and Sewer rates will be held on Thursday, November 4th at 6:00 pm.


Personnel Policy and Employee Job Descriptions – Supervisor Winemiller stated that there are some additions needed in the Personnel Policy and that all of the Employee Job Descriptions need to either be updated or created. She will be working on those documents and will send out to the Board members for review as they are completed.

Rockledge Special Board Meeting – Supervisor Winemiller was seeking input into setting the date for the next Special Board Meeting for Rockledge (#4). Councilperson Donald Amell inquired if the Rockledge residents had gotten back to her regarding their selection of the possible committee representatives who would be attending the next meeting. Supervisor Winemiller responded that they had not. Councilperson Amell suggested sending out a reminder email and waiting until Winemiller received a response before setting the next date. Winemiller agreed and stated she would send the email the next day.

State Comptroller’s Report on the Town’s Fiscal Score – Supervisor Winemiller distributed the Comptroller’s Report on the Town of St. Armand’s Fiscal Score, stating the Town’s fiscal state was good. Winemiller also displayed the report on the screen for on-line viewers to review.

St. Armand Youth Task Force Update – Supervisor Winemiller announced the St. Armand Youth Task Force met and decided to change the plans of the proposed Hockey/Skating Rink/Basketball/Roller Blading enclosed building. After speaking with area youth, the task force learned that most wanted an outside rink and new basketball court, rather than an indoor pavilion. An alternate plan was discussed to instead build an addition onto the existing Youth Building, where there could be a snack bar with tables to sit at to eat and a covered picnic area outside, as well as the hockey rink and new basketball court. The Task Force was going to get building plans together in order to obtain estimates for the smaller project. Councilperson Donald Amell asked who was going to work at the snack bar? Winemiller stated the Youth Task Force would run it as a fundraiser for the other improvements. The Task Force is legally incorporated and we are committed to fund raise. Councilperson Amell stated prioritizing the expenses makes good sense and that deserves more discussion.

St. Armand Youth Task Force request for the 2022 Block Party – Supervisor Winemiller announced that the 2022 Block Party was planned for August 27, 2022, and the Task Force is requesting to sell beer and pull tabs on that date. Supervisor Winemiller distributed an email exchange from the Town’s insurance company. The email response stated if the task force purchases their own insurance for the event, this is fine. In addition, as long as the Town did not sell or manufacture alcohol, then the Town has host liquor liability coverage. Ayres would still like to see the task force purchase their own insurance and add the Town as additional insured on their event policy. Winemiller described where the beer garden and pull tabs would take place on the field. There will be security there as well. The Board agreed as long as it was contained and very strictly controlled. Only cans would be sold; kegs would not be used. There will be no glass and no cups. The Board agreed that pull tabs would also be acceptable. Winemiller stated she would ask for a Resolution at the next Regular Board Meeting so that she can move forward with the application.

The Town Hall Offices will be closed on Election Day – Tuesday, November 2, 2021. The Town Hall will be open for voting from 6:00 am until 9:00 pm.

Donna Bramer, Town Assessor, will be discussing the Senior Age Exemption at the Budget Work Session on October 20, 2021.


Sandy Hayes stated he reviewed the Town’s parking regulations due to a problem at the end of Curtis Way. There is a boat parked right at the end of the road. People are turning around in his driveway because they cannot see down the road. They are parked in the Highway right of way. Some of the cars pull over the yellow line to get away from the boat.

Winemiller asked if anyone has knocked on the door and asked the owners to move the boat? Hayes continued that the regulations use the term “vehicle” and vehicle does not include the description of trailers or campers. Winemiller stated she would check it out. Hayes asked about a folder that used to be on the table that included the Superintendent’s report. Darrah replied that the Supervisor’s report is available on the Town’s website.

Warrene McCarthy described some sort of wooden shelf that has been sitting on the side of the road just beyond Sandy Hayes’. Warrene also stated there are two pickup trucks that park on the road and going down by foot to the Transfer Station. They are also going through Warrene’s property. Winemiller stated if they are trespassing on her property, she needs to call the State Police.

Winemiller asked if anyone had any more questions or concerns for the Board? There were no other questions.


Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made a Motion to move into Executive Session for the purpose of a personnel matter. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Karl Law. The Executive Session began at 8:10 pm.


Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made a Motion to Adjourn the Executive Session. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Karl Law. The Executive Session ended at 8:55 pm.


Deputy Supervisor D. Joseph Bates made a Motion to Adjourn the Regular Board Meeting. The Motion was seconded by Councilperson Karl Law. The Regular Board Meeting adjourned at 8:56 pm.

I, Barbara J. Darrah, Town Clerk for the Town of St. Armand, do hereby certify that the above is a true and correct transcript of the Regular Board Meeting minutes held on the above-referenced date.

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